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On a Hillside by FCLittle On a Hillside by FCLittle
Just a simple one....trying to get back into using Vue after a long hiatus....so far not having much luck with this old computer....need to upgrade.....
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oulyt Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2010  Student Digital Artist
woah dang, this looks pretty cool great infact. i think if it was a little darker it would look nicer. something about the lighting is a little off, can't place my finger on it
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FCLittle Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I have misgivings about the lighting too....I kinda rushed this one....I might revisit it soon and give it a bit of a polishing....
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gerberc Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2010
Love it!
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FCLittle Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks, my friend!....
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ArthurBlue Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2010
Amazing detail. Great plants. Excellent work.
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FCLittle Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nice to see you over here at deviant art!....I'm so very impressed with your recent work....I wish I could learn your secrets!
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ArthurBlue Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2010
Thanks! And I wish I could learn yours! :) Your creations are fantastic.
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Trepz Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
WOW, like this is the answer to where the wild things are LOL

nice detail and great execution (;
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FCLittle Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks so much!
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orinoor Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2010
Well, I love it! Fantastic plants, I always look forward to seeing what you'll do next and using Vue is not a piece of cake, especially with how far YOU push it. Great image!
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FCLittle Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why thank you so much!
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jordanoth Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Professional Filmographer
keep up the good work,
simply remarkable!
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FCLittle Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you very much!
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Estamation Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Yum vegetation!
Very nice image of alien jungle forest savvanna. . . LANDSCAPE! :D
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FCLittle Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks so much....and yes, the fruit of these plants is usually quite sweet and delicious....
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curious3d Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Given the light and the amount of plants you use, I'm sure your computer flinches when it sees you coming! :D

Nice work, and good to see you Vueing again.
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FCLittle Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
We'll see how it feels when I get a newer, sleeker computer....that'll teach it....
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Frobiaz Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2010
Amazing!

Is it a manipulated picture or a whole made one? If it's the latter, from which kind of forest you get inspiration?
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FCLittle Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's a totally 3d picture....I make models using xfrog 3.5 (and sometimes Silo 3d) and try to make landscapes for them....
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Cool! I think the "messyness" of plants on the hills really adds to the realism. The alien plants are as always - the cornerstone of the image, they remind me of some succulents I've seen 8-) I gotta compliment the clouds too - I thought you used a photo for the sky again at first :XD:
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FCLittle Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks again, my friend....I really love Vue clouds now! I used to put alpha planes in the distance for the clouds but no more....
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applePAI Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Ooohhmyyygooooood. This is so freakishly amazing; I thought it was a Photograph until I saw who did it XD GREAT JOB. SERIOUSLY!
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FCLittle Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why thank you very much!
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nuckinfuts-xD Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
I like it :D
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FCLittle Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you!
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miniwatt Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2010
a modicum of thought...the shadows seem to be very dark for the high level of ambient light seen in the clouds and are far to black, a bit of color there will go a long way, and the light coming from the sun appear to be to low on the horizon to match the cloud lighting, one should never just rely on the default level of the software when it comes to lighting even if vue has correct spectral math...math will never replicate nature no matter how smart we think we have become...
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ArthurBlue Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2010
This discussion about realism and shadows really makes no sense at all, in an artwork such as this one. We have no idea what kind of world this is, what is the composition of the atmosphere, what is the spectrum of the sun, etc, etc. So, any conjectures about "realism" as if this was a scene from Earth makes no sense whatsoever.
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miniwatt Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2010
a justification such as this then has no meaning. the question is are you really an artist or just a button pusher. do not let the software tell you what to do. you set the parameters of the settings. so to say this is the effect based in no realism than it has to come down to artistic talent...end of your line.
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ArthurBlue Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2010
The end result tells where you're an artist or not, not what buttons you push (or don't push). It doesn't matter whether you changed the default settings of your software or not. If the default settings provide for good results, then use the default settings.

Your initial critique was about pursue of realism ("shadows too dark", etc). Now you talk about art. The two aspects, art and realism, are not inter-dependent. Being an artist has nothing to do with imitating reality.

In this particular image it's not possible to tell whether it's realistic or not because we don't know what are the conditions in that planet. Therefore, criticizing its realism is pointless. But it's possible to tell whether this image classifies as art or not, and that's what counts, in my opinion. What buttons were pushed to achieve this result, is completely irrelevant.
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miniwatt Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2010
you [ass]umed my initial critique was about pursuit of realism. yet you put words in my mouth saying art has nothing to do with imitating reality, I never said this, you did. to justify you; by saying you, is only you. and it has nothing to do with the conditions of the planet, which only lets you say anything you want in your defense, that would be make believe and thus defeats your thinking. as for talent belying on irrelevant has every thing to do with; bad art=no artistic talent. also better you should study the effects of light as it interacts with it surrounding since vue relies on the mathematics (science) of this that artists knew and studied long before how light interacts with surfaces and so forth. you let something else to most of the work you claim to do and think you know, but carry on in your ignorance, because there is nothing worse than the combination of ignorance and arrogance.
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ArthurBlue Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2010
I don't know if english is your native language but I must say I didn't understand most of what you wrote. Several sentences don't seem to make any sense at all to me. Maybe it's my problem.

Anyway, because it's not clear to me what you really mean, I will not even reply. If you really want to establish a dialogue here, I would suggest the following:
1) Cool down
2) Don't insult me
3) Construct your sentences in a more perceptible way.
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miniwatt Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2010
t h e n I s h a l l t y p e s l o w e r , s o y o u m a y c o m p r e h e n d.........................you insult only your self sir. good day and godspeed........end of line.
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ArthurBlue Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2010
It's a pity you're not sufficiently convinced of your own arguments to continue this discussion.

(Note: thought you should know that your signature has 3 typos or mistakes.)
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Etrocal Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2010
Sorry man, that's not true at all. That would be like me going to a photo and saying that the shadows are off. Though this might not appeal to your tastes, (apparently with good lighting,) you can rely on defaults with the technology today. We are as smart as we think, and that's pretty obviously smarter than you. If this location existed at this time of day, it would look just like this does. There's a multitude of options that could explain why the clouds have shadows like that, and perhaps they have a lower shadow because they're actually above the hill? Did you know that clouds fly? Please, don't complain some fruitless opinion about a style of art on completely amazing pieces of work, and please take yourself somewhere else. If this seems like I'm just trying to say "I like this art so you, a critic, must be bad," is not true. I take all things into critical acclaim (or at least I try to,) but even if the lighting isn't good, it's undoubtedly not off. Give one reason how we can't replicate nature "no matter how smart we think we are," when it is just science? Reflections reflect, lighting makes things in its path light. There's a huge amount of little options that you clearly can't comprehend, that's not how Vue works. Vue in particular uses a massive amount of algorithms to achieve it's goal; that is a scientific fact. This isn't us trying to replicate nature, no, this is us making a new nature and having it look like another one. This program doesn't make things because it looks good, it makes things that look good because it makes them work. I implore that you learn how this works before confusing opinions about art to facts. Before you find a random piece of brilliant art and make a snide remark about what you think about 3D artwork, please think about the crap you're saying. The science is on, the facts should be straight.

Unless, of course, this was rendered at separate times and the background was just superimposed, but even then, I strongly disagree with your frankly, wrong opinions. Not bad opinions, not stupid opinions, but wrong ones. That's like saying that gravity pushes, and that magnetism is made up. Facts are not a matter of us "thinking we're smart," they're facts. Get your shit together, don't rant on things as good as this, and please, have a nice day.
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ArthurBlue Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2010
I agree with Etrocal, I completely disagree with miniwatt.
But, anyway, in my opinion, this discussion about realism and shadows really makes no sense at all, in an artwork such as this one. We have no idea what kind of world this is, what is the composition of the atmosphere, what is the spectrum of the sun, etc, etc. So, any conjectures about "realism" as if this was a scene from Earth makes no sense whatsoever.
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miniwatt Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2010
maybe you should study more on lighting than letting a program tell you what it is....godspeed small seed.
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Etrocal Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2010
I'm just going to assume you didn't read my comment, because I think I hit a few valid points there. You honestly think 12 years of researching and programming with a team of people aren't a little smarter than you?
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miniwatt Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2010
obvious you have not studied enough to set there and judge me, and yes the years and all those men will never equal one of me. you are young and way to arrogant to better. i am not the arrogant one. take a good long look at yourself. you rely on the software and all those others to tell you what is right. time for you to earn it yourself. got it? get it?...well obvious not yet.god speed little seed...or just a button pusher...>?
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Etrocal Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2010
No. All the years of those men will equal clearly more than you know.

I am a button pusher, for now at least, I'm relatively new in to the whole 3D art world, but at least I can differentiate arrogance from knowledge. I know what art is. Example, art is not finding some cool looking clouds and pressing the silver button on a camera, that equals what I like to call amateur photography, compensating for skill buy getting a Deviant Art membership. I'm not the one saying that I want America to be socialists. Listen, I realize that with years come knowledge, and you're almost undoubtedly older than me, but another thing that brings knowledge is actually learning. You find a great piece of art, leave a comment bashing a whole style, then pretend to be intelligent when I rebuke.

I try to avoid people like you, because I know you're wrong, snide for no reason attention whores, hoping you can rack up more than 2,000 page views in 8 years, and realizing that you aren't a good enough artist.

I don't care how many little models you put together in Lightwave, though admittedly impressive, it doesn't mean you know what you're talking about. Read my first comment, it goes over this the best. And even if the lighting isn't 100% for this world, is sure is for the new one. Now you can go be an asshole to try to get more than 20 views in a day on a random, great piece of art, or you can photograph a bird on a haystack and call it art, but please, don't mistake ignorance with facts and maybe work on that ego of yours.

If I were you, I'd stick with 3D art, it's better than your photography. And your pencil drawings aren't that bad, either. But you aren't insightful. Neither am I, but you are not. So, Godspeed little man, have fun writing an undoubtedly witty retort. But this time, try using facts, not arrogance.
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miniwatt Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2010
you do nothing but put me down, well that's o.k. because I do know what I am talking about, your little repute is proof in itself that you do not know what you are talking about, its people like you that muck around your own universe that you fail to see all that is about you. sorry that you feel inferior to me, but that is o.k. too. lash out at me all you want because I can take it, i have grown up with it...and remember you will never be smarter than you are, so do no fake it...are you all show and no substance???????
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spellbound7 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Oh wow, this looks like a photo! Amazing!
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FCLittle Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks so much!
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